Got it sorted on the upgrade, so now on V5
Finally worked on the like 10th time of asking, quick dir check and all was ok, so quick hover in the garage, and found the tail needs to be set up in rate mode, then it's great,
ReAlly snappy feel to it cyclic very responsive and direct, and very fluid on the movements, will put it in the air properly tomorrow night, after I redo my rudder end limit setting as I adjusted the rod,
Not sure why my gov light is on green when I'm in gyro sw pos 1 and red in pos 2 and 3 though that's strange