600 Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and aileron!!
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Tony
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
Not bad. I'm still going to have to teach you how to hold that camera sideways lol. You know the iphone takes HD video when it's sideways, but not when it's standing up. I'm gonna learn you yet lol.
And I'm not too sure about that tail. The blades were spinning, but the tail was not. That would make me a little nervous.
Not bad. I'm still going to have to teach you how to hold that camera sideways lol. You know the iphone takes HD video when it's sideways, but not when it's standing up. I'm gonna learn you yet lol.
And I'm not too sure about that tail. The blades were spinning, but the tail was not. That would make me a little nervous.
Tony
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
I would need to see the tail in order to see how it works. If in fact it's like the 250's, then there is no tail drive gear, and it's driven straight off the main gear. And the one way bearing will make the head spin, when the tail is stopped. But as soon as power is applied, it will lock the head and tail together. Something like that lol.
I would need to see the tail in order to see how it works. If in fact it's like the 250's, then there is no tail drive gear, and it's driven straight off the main gear. And the one way bearing will make the head spin, when the tail is stopped. But as soon as power is applied, it will lock the head and tail together. Something like that lol.
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Looks like it is slowly coming together. By the way I had a futaba GY 401 on my Raptor and the tail kept creeping on me, I put an Align GP780 and that puppy is solid as a rock.. jus sayin..
Looks like it is slowly coming together. By the way I had a futaba GY 401 on my Raptor and the tail kept creeping on me, I put an Align GP780 and that puppy is solid as a rock.. jus sayin..
Tony
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
I have to agree with Tommy on this one. The 401 was a great gyro when it came out, but it's still a piezoelectric gyro. Really need to go th the Align gyros for the ultimate in control. Not having one on my 600 is one reason I only flew it once with the GA-250.
I have to agree with Tommy on this one. The 401 was a great gyro when it came out, but it's still a piezoelectric gyro. Really need to go th the Align gyros for the ultimate in control. Not having one on my 600 is one reason I only flew it once with the GA-250.
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I didn't see any drift in the tail using it with the 9254. Everyone doing motors in my field / online suggested me this , and I found a good deal.
It is peizo, if I see any slop, I'll look into it closer and may be swap it out. But for now it looks good.
Tony, tail is like 250 so it stops before the blades with the main gear and yes it's direct driven by main gear.
I might be looking into the auto rotation gear for my tail for auto rotation safety, but thats in the future.
I want to ask this question to you guys... And I want a wry honest answer , lol
What settings should I use on this heli out of these two.. (posted)
My lhs guy tell me to stay in 50-55percent throttle range even at idle up... And my curve looks like this
Please let me know what you guys think is better? Should I go to 65 percent and 70 percent on my throttle?
Please let me know!
It is peizo, if I see any slop, I'll look into it closer and may be swap it out. But for now it looks good.
Tony, tail is like 250 so it stops before the blades with the main gear and yes it's direct driven by main gear.
I might be looking into the auto rotation gear for my tail for auto rotation safety, but thats in the future.
I want to ask this question to you guys... And I want a wry honest answer , lol
What settings should I use on this heli out of these two.. (posted)
My lhs guy tell me to stay in 50-55percent throttle range even at idle up... And my curve looks like this
Please let me know what you guys think is better? Should I go to 65 percent and 70 percent on my throttle?
Please let me know!
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
It's really hard to tell, you have to fit the curves to your liking. Either way you don't need to get your head speed over 2500 rpm's maximum or you get in the danger range of slinging a blade off. You will have to set your head speed with your end points until you get a governor. I could show you my throttle curve and pitch curve but yours would be different for your flying style
It's really hard to tell, you have to fit the curves to your liking. Either way you don't need to get your head speed over 2500 rpm's maximum or you get in the danger range of slinging a blade off. You will have to set your head speed with your end points until you get a governor. I could show you my throttle curve and pitch curve but yours would be different for your flying style
Tony
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I would start with the lower of the two and work your way up. Since Tommy has a heli that is about the same, it may be useful to get his settings, and dial them down a few percent for a starting point. As he said, you will have to set this up to your liking. I know that my throttle curves that I like to use, and my expo are not like what the next person would like. Just look at the settings on Nightmare from me to you. I loved the settings, but they just were not for you and you had to redo them.
I would start with the lower of the two and work your way up. Since Tommy has a heli that is about the same, it may be useful to get his settings, and dial them down a few percent for a starting point. As he said, you will have to set this up to your liking. I know that my throttle curves that I like to use, and my expo are not like what the next person would like. Just look at the settings on Nightmare from me to you. I loved the settings, but they just were not for you and you had to redo them.
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While that's true... So y'all don't like the settings (hand written) right? that's what's lhs guy gave me, and that's what I am at, as he hovered it.
An tommy, please an I get your settings!
The only one concern is that tommy is running a full metal head where I am plastic (max rom wise)
Now the manual, has a setup with the same engine as I have, and the settings above (printed ones) are from it. Which tells me that the gear ratios might be just right to get the max Rpm.
Now am I sure .. Lol.. Heck no! I bought the tachometer app. Need pinion gear and main gear tooth count. I don't have that. Can someone help me with that?
Which one is pinion in all these gears that drive the Main gear?
Again, can someone help me with the tooth count of my pinion and main gear. (even by searching, I am searching too, may be we can find the right one! )
Thanks guys!!
An tommy, please an I get your settings!
The only one concern is that tommy is running a full metal head where I am plastic (max rom wise)
Now the manual, has a setup with the same engine as I have, and the settings above (printed ones) are from it. Which tells me that the gear ratios might be just right to get the max Rpm.
Now am I sure .. Lol.. Heck no! I bought the tachometer app. Need pinion gear and main gear tooth count. I don't have that. Can someone help me with that?
Which one is pinion in all these gears that drive the Main gear?
Again, can someone help me with the tooth count of my pinion and main gear. (even by searching, I am searching too, may be we can find the right one! )
Thanks guys!!
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
Man, don't get lazy on us. You have to do a little research for your self.
From Raptortechnique "PITCH"
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Man, don't get lazy on us. You have to do a little research for your self.
From Raptortechnique "PITCH"
| At this stage you should just be using normal flight mode so either disable flight mode 1 and 2 or set the throttle and pitch curves to the same values you have in normal flight mode. This way if you accidently hit the switch then you will still be alright. *If your radio has more then 3 points for the pitch curve (bottom, middle, top) then disable all the points in between. If you can't disable them then use some math to find the correct value to set them to Remember each time . you adjust a top/middle/bottom point you will need to reset the points in between. I discuss this in step 9 below.If you do not have a pitch gauge you can use the built-in one but you will first need to align it, <here> is how. |
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| This is for learning to hover. Zero is used for the bottom in case you do a 'chop stick'. That is when you get in trouble and pull the stick down quick. BTW: Make sure your blades are tight in the grips. If you hit a little hard then the blades could pivot out of position and then reach the tail boom. |
| After you can hover good enough to keep the helicopter from moving all over the place then guess what you do next... move the helicopter all around the place <grin> hahaha Well in a structured way. You move in triangle, rectangle, and circle patterns to develope you aileron and elevator skills. At the early stage of this you may still want to keep the 0,5,9 settings but as you get more comfortable and start working on the beginnings of the figure 8 pattern it will be better to re-adjust the bottom point to -2. </grin> |
| This is for doing full figure 8's. If you try doing figure 8's with 0 on the bottom you will find as you come back into the wind you will have to lower the collective so much that the throttle cuts out from under you. In other words as you lower the collective to keep the helicopter from climbing, you may have to go so far that the engine goes to an idle. Remember the collective and throttle are on the same stick! |
| Next, start using the flight mode switch. Leave normal mode at -4,4,9. * All the following pitch curve settings are flight mode 1. |
| This will mostly be to help you get use to working the switch. Set the flight mode 1 throttle curve so the throttle does not go to idle, like 30,40,50,60,100. This will keep the throttle up when you do quick descent. |
| After you get comfortable with the -4 on the bottom then re-adjust the bottom for -6. Later you will go to a full 3d curve. |
| This is the full 3d curve with v-curve throttle, ex 100,60,50,60,100. This is the mode you use to do all the flip flopping in the sky that you want. |
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coolgabsi
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Hey breeze thanks for the deal... I am really running dry on money. There is a reason I am being a little slow and cautious with the bird too. I don't have money to replace stuff this month. lol
But I'll keep this one purchase on a priority to get whenever I can first.
@Tommy. Lol I know I know, I promise I am not being lazy(in reasearch) , I don't wanna open the bird to count the teeth, but I have been researching too.. Just want inputs are welcome you know that..
I am really running dry on money. There is a reason I am being a little slow and cautious with the bird too. I don't have money to replace stuff this month. lolBut I'll keep this one purchase on a priority to get whenever I can first.
@Tommy. Lol I know I know, I promise I am not being lazy(in reasearch) , I don't wanna open the bird to count the teeth, but I have been researching too.. Just want inputs are welcome you know that..
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Re: Can Someone PLEASE help me with the Mixes for Throttle, pitch elevator and ailero
I don't have any idea on your particular heli, I can tell you a lot about a raptor..lol
I don't have any idea on your particular heli, I can tell you a lot about a raptor..lol