What Did You Do Today???

RandyDSok

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I love building systems with other peoples money. So much fun.

I know right... :)

My own needs aren't that demanding so I don't have high end systems for personal or work... So at least I can play with the ones my clients needs for a little bit :D

Personally, I post process my own photo's, but never a lot of them at a time so raw power isn't a big thing there. I pretty much quit gaming a little after Quake 2 came out, which is sort of sad considering how cool games look now. At work, opening Quickbooks is probably the most demanding... lmao. Even if I'm trying to do data recovery, it doesn't require multi-core processing, graphics or even all that much memory. In fact, the main reason I spend what I do on my systems ( work and professionally ) are for the stability and longevity that better quality parts bring with them.
 

murankar

Staff member
Yeah you sit there and say you need this and this and 20 of those; that will be 2k thank you for shopping.

The best part is when they cry over the price and try and haggle you. Then you say, well you wanted to xyz and that's what it costs to do. That's when they well maybe not today.
 

RandyDSok

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The best part is when they cry over the price and try and haggle you. Then you say, well you wanted to xyz and that's what it costs to do. That's when they well maybe not today.

:)

Actually, at that point I'd offer different options and suggest we start over to see what they could afford... To start at the bottome of a gaming system let's say ( without too many compromises on quality still of course ) an AMD 2600 6-core since most games don't typically use 4 cores at the max but a few do go over that. Then still give them 16Gb of DDR 4 3000 memory which is more than enough for games ( but just a start for a content or professional creator ). I'll use the 500Gb SSD still and if they need more storage they can have me add a HD if needed. An AMD Radeon RX 570 w/4Gb, it'll do 60fps @ 1080 in the majority ( if not all ) of the games still many of which can still use the higher quality settings. They'd need at the least a 450w PS but I'd recommend a 600-650w 80+ bronze level so they could upgrade the graphics later if they wish ( unless they were really wanting that 2080 Ti in which case I'd suggest at least a 750w so they have a little extra headroom ). Unlike the previous ones, they wouldn't need Win10 Pro... so that could shave a little off the cost also.

That'd bring my cost to probably a little over $900 ( probably $950 if no sales are happening )... So say around $1150 ( since I'm a pessimist when it comes to costs ) assembled and tested.

Some simple upgrades available...

Upgrade to that 750w ps... probably will add about $30ish bucks

Upgrade to an additional 3 case fans ( the above only has a single 120mm )... add about $50 for some without LED's and decent bearings. Oh, you want some bling... add another $75 for some decent RGB led fans with an additional fan controller.

A 1Tb 7200rpm HD... another $75 ( at the most, probably more like $60-65ish )

Bigger upgrades...

Ryzen 7 2700 CPU ... add between $150-200 depending on sales ( a 2700X would probably require a stronger PS since they are pretty power hungry ( a 130-140w increase on the top end ) and not gain you that much on the high end performance wise )

Ok... now lets look at those video upgrades ( that you probably want just because you can never get enough fps ... lmao )

Radeon rX 580... a nice and pretty affordable bump in performance due to doubling the ram if nothing else... add about $75

... anything below would certainly also need a stronger PS again...

RTX 2070 ... add another $375 ( plus PS cost )

RTX 2080... please sit down now... add another $575 ( plus that dang PS upgrade again )

Since URI has already determined that the dollar budget cap is @ $2k dollars... I guess I don't need to mention that a RTX 2080 Ti is going to bump everything up at least $1075 give or take. :D


Just in case your wallets really aren't hurting yet. I'd figured an even better top end AMD gaming system at around the $2500 range ( including my cut, so if you are building yourself subtract about $200-$300 ) without any compromises to speak of. That was including a higher end MB than I just played around with above, a Ryzen 2700 ( which probably matches the Intel i7 8700k since I know the 2700X actually out performs it in most cases ), 16Gb DDR4 3000 memory, 512Gb M2 SSD, RTX 2080 Ti and an 850w bronze 80 + PS in a decent air flow case with 4 case fans.

All of the above are using the included AMD CPU coolers, so OC'ing isn't recommended. If you are dead set on voiding your warranty to gain just a handful more FPS ( Yes, I'm looking at you Tony :D )... A decent fan based cooler is the Noctua, the one for the AMD CPU's will cost you about $70 ( probaby $80 if I'm including and installing it ) and is as good as a decent entry level water cooling system. While the Noctua is the best, if you don't mind more noise and slightly less cooling capacity, Coolmaster and DeepCool both also have some decent CPU coolers for less.

I'm not a big water cooling fan ( pun intended )... they live about 3-5 years before needing replaced/repaired. If a WC system fails, your temps skyrocket and hopefully you notice it really quick... if a CPU fan fails, it won't overheat as quick ( but it still will overheat ) so it gives you more time since you still get some cooling from your internal case fans blowing across your CPU cooler... if the WC pump goes out ( the most common failure ) you have zero additional cooling that will help.
 
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Tony

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I'm not a big water cooling fan ( pun intended )... they live about 3-5 years before needing replaced/repaired
I would like to comment on this... If the pump fails, it will heat up faster than normal, but it should still give you some time before overheating the CPU. It would be like an air cooler that lost the pressure (vacuum?) in the heat pipes. But it will give you time. However, if you have the pump plugged into the CPU Fan Header, the Mobo should give you a warning that it is not working.
 

Tony

Staff member
Just finished editing, rendering and uploading the 3 transmission videos for the 2.5 T-Maxx. Now I have 3 weeks to get ready for the other videos... I think I'm going to need it...
 

murankar

Staff member
P_20190209_185728_LL.jpg Sorry I couldn't keep up today. The army had me busy. On the plus side the dx6 is fixed with all three switches fixed.
 

putang

Member
we painted my kitchen . she buys the paint I tape it off and we both paint . not what I wanted to do after getting spinal injection Thursday. next weekend press and stick tile above the kitchen counter.
 

murankar

Staff member
Dude feel you on that. I would hold off on the peel and stick.

Go get healed and do it the right the way with quick set and tiles. You'll be much happier.
 

Tony

Staff member
Spinal injection, I know all too well about that and it's not fun. Not personally, but with a family member. He is going into surgery Monday to have his back fused and will be down and out for 3 weeks. One year ago I was in my garage after cleaning out the bed of our S10 (project truck you can see on BrokeAuto's youtube page), and with my back already tired, I bent over to clean out the garage to pull my tractor in to work on it, and felt something pop and I went down to the ground. Nothing in my life has put me on my butt like that. I laid there for about 10 minutes before finding a way to get up and get to the house. I spent the next month nursing my back and even today I'm still babying it. Not fun to say the least.
 

putang

Member
I know what your family member is going through . 57 years young 1 back operation when I was about 25 . we were caring a rubber roof membrane up a flight of stairs with 2 other guys . one lost his hold and it went out from the second and I was ripped forward and felt and herd a loud pop. now the future 3 deteriorated disks and arthritis . fiscal fitness no help now the injections . if they don't work 5 vertebrae will need to be fused . I usually hunt three states and work on my summer home now I am learning this rc hobby.
 

Tony

Staff member
Definitely not fun and I'm trying my hardest to keep from falling into what you and my brother in law are going though. I'm in pain pretty much ever day, but can't imagine what having to get injections or fusions would be like....
 

murankar

Staff member
I don't have yalls issues but my left thigh goes numb, then burns and then goes numb again. Not to mention the cramps that come in my hamstring
 

putang

Member
sounds like sciatica . the muscle cramps are a pain especially if they come at night . talk to your doctor and get a handle on it. I wake up about every 2 hrs. because of the nerves getting pinched off . at work my hips start to bothering me if I sit to long or stand to long . no fun.
 

murankar

Staff member
I am going to do a follow up shortly. Last year I had a sciatic nerve issue that had to be dry needled. This is the after math of it.
 

Tony

Staff member
Setting up new articles that will be published automatically so I don't forget. Apparently I am really good at forgetting.... lmao
 

murankar

Staff member
Next I need two Vcontrol switches. Soon can fix that. Not looking forward to that bill.

Time for a harbour freight pelican case.
 
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