Learn How To Fly W/ The Rc-help Trainer. Build & Fly Guide
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Must of missed the PDF download some where! ? Also My AmA#993157 name BOKI Only wanted one set of plans Also!
I'll probably be needing some help on it! Where would you suggest I buy the electronics! ? The Best !thanks tony for your reply , am glad to till u that i found the foam board and almost done the air frame but i need to know can i neglect the carbon spar or us a wooden spar instead of it or not ?
since your recommended power plant 890kv Alpha 450 brushless outrunne motor is not available now
can i use these power plant
Park 450 Brushless Outrunner Motor, 890Kv
20A brushless ESC
3S Lipo 2100 mah 25c
Recommended Prop Range: 9x6 to 11x3.8 Slow Flyer or 10x5 to 12x6 Electric
or you recommend another thing
thx a lot
since your recommended power plant 890kv Alpha 450 brushless outrunne motor is not available now
can i use these power plant
Park 450 Brushless Outrunner Motor, 890Kv
20A brushless ESC
3S Lipo 2100 mah 25c
Recommended Prop Range: 9x6 to 11x3.8 Slow Flyer or 10x5 to 12x6 Electric
or you recommend another thing
thx a lot
Tony
Staff member
That setup looks like it will work just fine. I would purchase 3 props for it though. 10x6, 11x5.5, and 12x6. This will allow you to fine tune your setup. I'm running a 12x6 on mine and it's a big prop, but the motor is made for a good size prop. In all reality, I would like to get a motor that has 1000kv and just run the 10x6 prop and spin it a little faster.
The battery you are wanting to run will be just fine.
As for the spar, you cna use wood, or better yet, the thick skewers that you would use on the grill. They are made out of bamboo and are very strong. You just want to keep the elevator from flexing under a load. If this is not the spar you are talking about, let me know.
The battery you are wanting to run will be just fine.
As for the spar, you cna use wood, or better yet, the thick skewers that you would use on the grill. They are made out of bamboo and are very strong. You just want to keep the elevator from flexing under a load. If this is not the spar you are talking about, let me know.
SuperSiemie
New Member
Hi Tony,
It's a long while ago I spoke you... Because I was very busy with school. So I didn't work on the plane for a long time. I've had the busiest part of the year, so i decided to work on the plane again. I've ordered all electronic stuff I need, so when the package is here I can start doing the best part. I finished the colouring today.
I'll send you a picture of it (it's not the best picture)
Best regards,
Martijn
It's a long while ago I spoke you... Because I was very busy with school. So I didn't work on the plane for a long time. I've had the busiest part of the year, so i decided to work on the plane again. I've ordered all electronic stuff I need, so when the package is here I can start doing the best part. I finished the colouring today.
I'll send you a picture of it (it's not the best picture)
Best regards,
Martijn
Tony
Staff member
Hey, not an issue. Trust me I know about life getting in the way. If you knew half of what is going on in my life right now you would be amazed. Things happen and you get busy, it's understandable. I can't wait to see the plane. You can post the picture here if you want, just click on the little picture icon at the top of the reply box and upload them from your computer.
Amanda
New Member
Really like Tony’s patriotic looken Trainer! This is my 1st attempt at building sumthing so i want to keep it simple and not cover the foamcore. but i had an epiphany when i saw two diff’ colors of foamcore at HobbyLobby in Rochester. So i gots Black sheets AND sum White sheets (they sell them by the individual sheet) i made the Top and Bottom of the fusealge Black (the window is a piece of white duct-tape) and the right and left side of the fusealoge are white. Both the horizontal and verticle stabilizer r Black.
But the best part is the wing! the Main-Wing and Front-section of the wing is Black,,, but the middle section is White, so the wing has a white stripe from wing-tip to wing-tip and he leading edge of the wing has a White stripe thrw it (from the white middle piece sandwiched in ther) I wold post a pic but the rents (as in parents) dont allow me to post pics on the Internet (sigh) so u will jst have to visualize it
So now iam jst waiting 4 the servos my uncle ordered 4 me. btw, i DL’d the plans yesterday!
But the best part is the wing! the Main-Wing and Front-section of the wing is Black,,, but the middle section is White, so the wing has a white stripe from wing-tip to wing-tip and he leading edge of the wing has a White stripe thrw it (from the white middle piece sandwiched in ther) I wold post a pic but the rents (as in parents) dont allow me to post pics on the Internet (sigh) so u will jst have to visualize it
So now iam jst waiting 4 the servos my uncle ordered 4 me. btw, i DL’d the plans yesterday!
Tony
Staff member
Do you mean Foam Core, or Foam Board? If you are using Foam Core, you will have to use supports on the wing, tail and fuse to keep it from flexing. But if this is a paper backed foam board, it will be fine if you build it like I did in the videos.
thanks for the kind words on the theme of the airplane. It took about a week to design and lay all of the pieces of vinyl that I put on it. Thankfully I own the vinyl plotter and was able to cut everything out myself. Just flew it again this past weekend and it flew just as great as it did in that maiden flight video.
If there is anything I can help you with, just let me know. And no worries about the pictures, I understand how "rents" can be, I am one hahahahaha.
thanks for the kind words on the theme of the airplane. It took about a week to design and lay all of the pieces of vinyl that I put on it. Thankfully I own the vinyl plotter and was able to cut everything out myself. Just flew it again this past weekend and it flew just as great as it did in that maiden flight video.
If there is anything I can help you with, just let me know. And no worries about the pictures, I understand how "rents" can be, I am one hahahahaha.
Amanda
New Member
hey Tony
ya i shud B good cuz i used the paper-back strong foam-bord,,, but since i neva made a airplane B4 i also did everything u show us in the vid's,,,, BBQ skewers in the wing and those little carbon things in the tail. the Hobby Shop in Rochester has everything,, so i gots the FoamWeks Channel Rail and Blue Cutter too (aint i lucky!) umm,, my Trainer plans must B new? cuz they dint have the Dihedral drawing tht i saw in a video? (((i watch the vid's a couple times B4 i started actally started cutting))) no big deal tho, cuz i added jst a teeny little bit of dihedral (hardly any at all) and the Hobby Shop guy looked at my wing and said it was fine. And it jst keeps gettin bettr,,, cuz when my cousin heard i was making a airplane he gave me his DX6i radio thingy (he gots a new 8) i mite ask him to fly it 4 me the 1st time cuz iam scared? but evn if i DO wreck it,,, its easy to jst make anothr one
ya i shud B good cuz i used the paper-back strong foam-bord,,, but since i neva made a airplane B4 i also did everything u show us in the vid's,,,, BBQ skewers in the wing and those little carbon things in the tail. the Hobby Shop in Rochester has everything,, so i gots the FoamWeks Channel Rail and Blue Cutter too (aint i lucky!) umm,, my Trainer plans must B new? cuz they dint have the Dihedral drawing tht i saw in a video? (((i watch the vid's a couple times B4 i started actally started cutting))) no big deal tho, cuz i added jst a teeny little bit of dihedral (hardly any at all) and the Hobby Shop guy looked at my wing and said it was fine. And it jst keeps gettin bettr,,, cuz when my cousin heard i was making a airplane he gave me his DX6i radio thingy (he gots a new 8) i mite ask him to fly it 4 me the 1st time cuz iam scared? but evn if i DO wreck it,,, its easy to jst make anothr one
Amanda
New Member
OK i mite be discombobulated (cuz i usually am) Is Foam-Core wat we wanna use to make our airplane? It is the foamy stuf sandwiched between 2 layers of paper and it looks like it is about 1/4 inch thick (maybe a little less.) The stuf used in the Trainer Video iam calling FOAM-CORE. Foam Board is different cuz it is jst a single layer of foamy stuf witout any paper,, like insulation. And jst when i thot i had it figured out, the sales Lady at Dollar Tree said “,,,or did u mean Gator-Board?” AGRRRRR!
anywayzzz it really dont mattr cuz Waldo is all cut out and glued together (i named my trainer Waldo after The Great Waldo Pepper) My servos shud be here Thursday
anywayzzz it really dont mattr cuz Waldo is all cut out and glued together (i named my trainer Waldo after The Great Waldo Pepper) My servos shud be here Thursday
Tony
Staff member
I call what I used in teh video foam board. The "insulation" stuff I call foam core. But I see why you woudl call the board "core" since the "core" of the board is foam lol. Confusing, but if you use what I have in teh video, you will be fine.
And congrats on teh DX6i. I have many videos on that Tx but mostly for the heli flyers. Planes are pretty easy once you get the trimming out of the way.
Callsign4223, a member on here, I just built him a trainer when he was at my house last weekend and I made a change to the rudder and elevator to get rid of that spar holding the elevator together. We will be flying it in the next couple weeks and if it's good, I will do a quick video on how to modify the tail to make it like this one. MUCH easier to built the tail this way. If he reads this, I'm hoping he will post a couple pictures of the rudder and elevator. Also, he is going ot mount the servos to the top of the fuse, and not on the sides.
If you need any help, just let me know. Love seeing new pilots! also, is your Uncle named Pat? I think it is, just trying to connect some emails to these posts lol.
And congrats on teh DX6i. I have many videos on that Tx but mostly for the heli flyers. Planes are pretty easy once you get the trimming out of the way.
Callsign4223, a member on here, I just built him a trainer when he was at my house last weekend and I made a change to the rudder and elevator to get rid of that spar holding the elevator together. We will be flying it in the next couple weeks and if it's good, I will do a quick video on how to modify the tail to make it like this one. MUCH easier to built the tail this way. If he reads this, I'm hoping he will post a couple pictures of the rudder and elevator. Also, he is going ot mount the servos to the top of the fuse, and not on the sides.
If you need any help, just let me know. Love seeing new pilots! also, is your Uncle named Pat? I think it is, just trying to connect some emails to these posts lol.
Amanda
New Member
hi
tnx 4 the info,,, foam BOARD it is! tnx 4 the DX6i vid's too,,, 1 switch to change dual-rates on everything?? yeaaaa,,, D/R COMBI! (dint kno that) and yes uncle Pat DL'd the Trainer Plans. Waldo (my airplane) is all done except 4 the servos which shud B here friday??? btw, SERVOS were far and away the hardest part of making the Trainer cuz i dint evn kno wat a servo was,, but Btween the hobbyshop guy and GOOGLE i am a servo guru. i mean ther r a plethora of servos,,, did i want a Std servo? high torque servo? low voltage servo? mini servo? micro servo? high speed servo? digital servo? ball bearing servo? plastic gear servo? and the list gos on,,,,,,,,,,,,,
tnx 4 the info,,, foam BOARD it is! tnx 4 the DX6i vid's too,,, 1 switch to change dual-rates on everything?? yeaaaa,,, D/R COMBI! (dint kno that) and yes uncle Pat DL'd the Trainer Plans. Waldo (my airplane) is all done except 4 the servos which shud B here friday??? btw, SERVOS were far and away the hardest part of making the Trainer cuz i dint evn kno wat a servo was,, but Btween the hobbyshop guy and GOOGLE i am a servo guru. i mean ther r a plethora of servos,,, did i want a Std servo? high torque servo? low voltage servo? mini servo? micro servo? high speed servo? digital servo? ball bearing servo? plastic gear servo? and the list gos on,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Amanda
New Member
if neone think the RCHelp Trainer has 1 wing YOUR WRONG!
yeah, iam learning a lot making this thing. for instance, did u kno the Trainer has 2 wings? and mine has 3 cuz instead of glueing a Right and a Left wing sumbody (who shall remain nameless) made 2 left wings,,, so she had to cut out another one (thats 3 so far) but the servos and motor came 2day so it wont B long now,,,,,,, maybe.
yeah, iam learning a lot making this thing. for instance, did u kno the Trainer has 2 wings? and mine has 3 cuz instead of glueing a Right and a Left wing sumbody (who shall remain nameless) made 2 left wings,,, so she had to cut out another one (thats 3 so far) but the servos and motor came 2day so it wont B long now,,,,,,, maybe.
Tony
Staff member
When I built Matt's plane, I did the same thing and made two left wings. We just cut the ends off the wing making both the exact same and also taking about 4" off the total length. Plane will not be as stable, but should fly faster.
I will be working on a new trainer that should be MUCH easier to build here shortly. Working on a 3D plane ATM.
I will be working on a new trainer that should be MUCH easier to build here shortly. Working on a 3D plane ATM.